Reuters.com: Three drinks a day ups breast cancer risk: study

Just say you like your alcohol

it depends what kind of alcohol tho. Wine should be fine but simply not overdoing it.

Cut my wrist, never. I love my life too much. -cool

Moderation will hardly have ill effects, so you are safe.

Breast cancer has more to do with hormonal changes and body tissue fat more than anything else, hence it is very uncommon for male to be diagnosed with breast cancer.

 

I do not agree with you.

I agree if are saying that breast cancer or in medical terms mamma carcinoma is related to more factors than what i have wrote before. But i do not agree with it, if you are pointing the problem only to the hormonal changes or the fat tissue.

The increasing factors to give you a slightly higher change to get mamma carcinoma are:

- if some related to youre family (like youre grandma or aunt) who has mamma carcinoma before.
- mutation of the hereditary gene will increase the risk to 40 a 85% to get mamma carcinoma.
- After you diagnosed with mamma carcinoma and got better, the changes to get it again at a older age wil then be around 3 a 4 times higher then the risk you had before.
- Females who did not give birth to a child have a higher risk.
- Females who experienced earlier periods or having a late menopause are also having a higher risk.
- Females who do not give breast feeding. (just a slightly higher risk, lower comparing to those other factors)
- Hormonal changes
- Using drugs like the morning after pil to prevent getting pregant.
- Alcohol
- Not enough body movements. (related to the last factor)
- Females who weight to much.

 

In fact I do -tongue2 Too bad winter's not the season for whites >.<

If you just eat/drink normally (not to much of this or that) and take regulair exercises, the risk of getting ill wil be far lower than whatever i have wrote earlier.[/QUOTE]

Just seeing this whole cancer discussion... Throwing in my 2c:


I believe that Wind is correct in saying breast cancer most likely relates to hormonal changes and fat tissues (in breast).

However, I don't think he implied that those hormones just randomly go haywire. To a certain (reserved) extent, hormonal changes are often related to either 1. hereditary genetics or 2. random mutation in genes. Chance are slim for fat tissue just randomly turning carcinogenic if there is NO hormonal changes.

So my take on the argument: Wind was talking about hormonal changes as a vital step in the the process of mamma carcinogenesis. While love2007 was talking about the very basic root cause (many of the items in your list indicate a hereditary genetic defect, for which odds are good that the individual in question will go through hormonal changes which may lead to mamma carcinogenesis)...

 

First of al, let me clearify the meaning of my reply before theire will be more difficult arguments
What i wrote before was that the possibility for a men to get mamma carcinoma is far more less compare to a female.
Second off all, the advice for food (fat/grease) or drinks (alcohol) what i replied before was not meaned for mamma carcinoma but for steatosis. I only gave him a advice that if the risk to get a mamma carcinoma is lower for a men, doesnt mean that he can drink a lot of alcohol.

I m not sure if you have seen any sonographic studies in the hospital or at any other clinical centras before, but most patient with a overweight, bad health problem by eating a lot of fat products or drinking a lot of alcohol are diagnoced with steatosis. (Without notice)

What you have discribed about the role of hormonal is also interesting. (Sounds like professor.... hmmm interesting)
I agree with youre statement about the hereditary genetics, that so far one of the highest risk factor.
I m not sure about those random changes of these genes, but there is a possibility that you are right about this.
The only thing what is missing what i forget to write before is that those hormonal changes are meanly caused by hormonal products, like the after morning pil. The chance to get mamma carcinoma by these hormonal products increased by the time you longer use. There have been studies in the US that were performed and resulted out that the risk to get mammo carcinoma were increased by 30 a 40 % by using these hormonal products. But 30 a 40% higher risk is far lower then the factor what you wrote before, and thats the gene mutation.

Further more, there have been studies what also confirmed that when a female stops to use these hormonal products, after five years the risk decreased to a normal level of risk. Because the risk can be lowered by stopping using these products or reduce the use of these products, means that the hormonal factor is slightly less inportant than the familiy factor.

 

True enough, I was distracted by the breast cancer talk (since the title of the topic is on breast cancer). Sorry for missing the steatosis part -sweat

Then again, I would have thought that awareness of steatosis would be higher since steatorrhoeic hepatosis is very common (amongst heavy drinkers)... Not sure about other types of steatosis though.

Not meaning to argue, but despite the study done on hormonal pills (including morning after ones), there are individuals who do not undergo hormonal changes (I call them backlashes) at level high enough to develop breast cancer regardless of how long the multiple she had been taking said hormonal pills.

So I maintain that hormonal change is vital in mamma carcinogenesis, moreso than hormonal products AND genetics, since the mamma carcinogenesis is unlikely to be developed via means OTHER than hormonal change.

 

If you ever come around to mtl, ill bug you with the white wine when we go out to eat

So true. Basis to be a healthy being is simply by doing that. No x amount of products will give you optimal health like what you just said.

Indeedy, great minds think alike -clapclap

*sighs* Problem with those studies is that they never tend to be 100% accurate and unchanging. Every so often, new studies come out and disprove what was previously known and thought to be the absolute truth. Human race evolves constantly and scientists discover new trends and such that provide and allow them to enunciate "more accurate" hypothesis. However, i do agree with you that cancer and steatosis can be triggered by many factors.

i hope you'll not go to that limit either... cuz seeing peeps on withdrawal or suffering from alcohol related illness simply aint a good sight.

 

999 posts, u go girl -rockon