Do you think you need an education to be successful?

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  1. kdotc

    kdotc 안녕하세요빅뱅K-Dragon입니다

    u don't need education no more..u need talent or connections
     
  2. p0rcelain

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    i think education might still be counted in some ways for example during job promotion.
    But also greal deal on who you know and your EQ.
    High IQ with also High EQ.
     
  3. person

    person Well-Known Member

    For many jobs you need an education. I just did a project on workplace illiteracy, and over 85% of jobs will not hire workers who are illiterate... so... education is important.
    For a high school graduate, it would be hard to find a good job or get a promotion, unless they're street smart.
    Either way, education is still very important.
     
  4. Kaitou_Kid

    Kaitou_Kid Well-Known Member

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    well if your talking about in general not necessarily. but as in all cases a basic education is needed...but in reality you do need a education because people would hire/start businesses with people of greater education for materialistic gains
     
  5. dot

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    i think for the majority, yes... then there's always ppl who can succeed no matter what.. i believe that too
     
  6. kwasakizx06

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    Education is just a foundation to success, you can't be successful if you're retarded(unless you're Paris Hilton).

    Here's how I look at it.
    You can "make it" in 2 ways, Luck or Intelligence. Would you spend your life looking for that 1 in a billion luck? Or just go the long way and invest your way up. Some people thinks they can just become celebrity and make million of dollars overnight, well that is just pure luck, even if you have talent, will you discover it? will someone with high authority discover it? will you even get an opportunity to show it to the world?. Even if you become famous, there will be many people just waiting out there to screwed up your life/career. I'd rather go the safe way. If i make a mistake I can rebuild because I have an education, if you have no education, where will you go if you make a mistake and corrupt? At an older age I doubt that you will get anymore opportunities to widen your education.

    People have different definitions for "success", My definition for success is money $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ and personal values.
     
  7. epy

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    yes you do. in the past you could've been hired and gone up the work chain, but nowadays people don't hire without post secondary education because theres so much competition.
     
  8. munchie mun

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    as long as you can read and write, i don't think you need to have an education to be successful....you can be a high school dropout and be just as successful through experience rather than education
     
  9. BGWxAnNaSuI

    BGWxAnNaSuI Well-Known Member

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    well that depends on what job you want to pursuit in.
    comfort/enjoyable jobs = education.
    hard/nonenjoyable ones = non-education.
    which one would you prefer?

    Maybe we should all watch Pursuit of Happiness starring Will Smith. based a true story of a homeless guy who turned into a wealthy person.
     
  10. mentroc

    mentroc Active Member

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    well i think education is very important to be successful. unless your a geneus
     
  11. shenfon

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    I think education is important
     
  12. ribsandbbqbeef

    ribsandbbqbeef Well-Known Member

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    Depends on what one's definition of success is. Is it money? fame? doing what you like? having a wonderful family? Depending on how you define success, you can achieve each one with different levels of education.

    A collegue of mine who I look up to always tells me that success is 50% knowledge and 50% skills. With knowledge and no skills, one can't apply it; with skills but no knowledge, there is nothing to apply.

    So yes, the more education one obtains, the more "tools" one has to apply with. However one must also acquire skills such as public speaking, composition, interpersonal skills, etc... in order to become successful.

    For those who keep referring to the handful of wealthy people in the world who either dropped out of school or did not go very far in school; do you think they tell their kids that an education is not necessary to achieve what they did? I'm sure all of them send their kids to the best schools they can find for a reason.

    For your interest, here's an article linking lifetime income to education level:
    http://usgovinfo.about.com/library/weekly/aa072602a.htm?terms=income+education

    Keep studying, it may not guarantee you success, but without it you will definitely not become successful in this day & age.
     
  13. Sadden_One

    Sadden_One Well-Known Member

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    don't need a " higher" lvl of education but need the basics at least
    let's say u become a businessman, u need to be well educated and not doing weird things, or people u meet to do business with might not trust u when they see that u haven't been educated correctly
    u need to be able to socialize with people, and then, when they notice that u know what ur doing, they won't care about what was ur level of education
     
  14. ribsandbbqbeef

    ribsandbbqbeef Well-Known Member

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    An afterthought: it's extremely competitive to get into the best schools for various occupations (med, law, dental, optometry, pharmacy school); the fact that one is able to compete against all his peers (both academically through scores and interpersonal skills through interviews) to get into one of these schools shows the potential for success (not necessarily guaranteeing it though). In some ways, higher education "weeds out" people who have the least likely potential for success.

    What higher education does not affect is a person's luck, opportunities which arise in his life, his personality, etc... There are bound to be a couple people who gets lucky at the right time with the right opportunity and becomes successful without higher education. But come one, how many of those people are out there really, and what are the chances that you will be one of them?
     
  15. THF20

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    Most likely... But if u are truely skillful on one subject... education may not be as important as it looks for you I guess.
     
  16. chiwaiwilliam

    chiwaiwilliam Well-Known Member

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    it is very necessary for you to have higher education in order to be successful.
     
  17. hiake

    hiake Vardøgr of da E.Twin

    It is expected for a successful person to be educated.
    However, it is not necessary, but the risk involved is enormous. The chance of failure for a high-school drop-out is just THAT likely. That is why the so-called uneducated success stories make it to the headlines. But so rarely is the case of a success have not finished high school. Unless of course you are one of those music prodigies. But keep in mind that musical training, like any other trainings, is education. As with self-taught computer skills. You can say University is overrated for success, but you may not say education is overrated for success because it is in fact SO unlikely a person to be successful without proper education of any kind.
    Talent may land you on the map, but you would soon disappear when the fad wears off. Only education and constant betterment maintain the status of a success.