RIP to those young souls.... http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2012/12/14/connecticut-school-shooting.html A shooting at a Connecticut elementary school has left 27 people dead, including 18 children, according to an official with knowledge of the attack, in what could be one of the deadliest mass shootings in U.S. history. The official spoke on condition of anonymity because the investigation is still underway. A law enforcement official in Washington said the attacker was a 20-year-old man with ties to the school and that one of the guns was a .223-calibre rifle. A local police source said the gunman is dead, but provided no further details. The person behind the shooting apparently had two guns, someone with knowledge of the shooting told The Associated Press. Unconfirmed media reports say the suspect fired about 100 bullets. The killings happened at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, about 95 kilometres northeast of New York City. State police say Newtown police called them around 9:40 a.m. ET. A SWAT team was among the throngs of police to respond. There are unconfirmed media reports that the principal and school psychologist are among the dead. Photos from the scene showed young students — some crying and looking visibly frightened — being escorted by adults through a parking lot in a line, hands on each other's shoulders. The Hartford Courant newspaper said those shot included children from kindergarten through Grade 4. If the Newtown death toll is confirmed, it would rank as the second deadliest mass shooting in U.S. history, behind the 2007 gun slayings of 32 people at Virginia Tech University. Three injured people were taken to Danbury Hospital, according to Pat Broderick, chairman of that facility's emergency department. He would not reveal details about the injuries. Stephen Delgiadice said his eight-year-old daughter heard two big bangs and teachers told her to get in a corner. His daughter was fine. "It's alarming, especially in Newtown, Conn., which we always thought was the safest place in America," he said. The superintendent's office said the district had locked down schools in Newtown, in western Connecticut 96 kilometres northeast of New York City. State police said Newtown police called them around 9:40 a.m. local time. Emergency vehicles surrounded the school in western Connecticut and parents were seen running toward the building as a helicopter flew overhead. ~ CBC news
The shooter was 24, Ryan Danza. The father of the Danza was found dead at their house, and the mother is dead too who was a kindergarden teacher at the school. Danza also had his kid at the school too. A 2nd person was arrested, relation is unknown. And the girlfriend is reported as missing. EDIT Adam Danza. Mother was the one that was shot at their home. No info on the father.
Most American voters tend to feel access to guns is ultimately more important than safety of individuals. Their answer would be to arm all the teachers and school workers so that they could "protect" the children should another murderous nut appear.
the issue is banning guns causes more problems because people will import. and in the end you have a bunch of vigilantes on top of the existing ones. Its tough, and since States is huge, i wouldnt want to live in a small town without being prepared for something unexpected
fucking cocksucker......it's getting worst as the days goes by..... really? now elementary school too? i cant imagine what's gonna be next.....god forbids
Other large industrialized nations that have criminality do not bear that out. In places like Japan and China, most "madman" type crimes are almost always done with a knife, and almost never with a firearm because there just isn't the availability. Sure, you still have crime and crime gangs will be armed because they do import or gain access to guns; but one almost never sees a Columbine type massacre because most big crime gangs (that have the wherewithal to get guns) go for big money. Only in poverty stricken country awash with guns (like Mexico, Brazil, Haiti) does crime with guns affect common people. In the US, this particular type of crime (private citizen nut goes haywire with gun and takes a throng of people with him) is almost predictable in its routine occurrence.
Gun Control is not the answer... lets put things in perspective... the total homicide rate from firearms in the states is roughly the same as DUI of alcohol... lets ban alcohol... Switzerland has a higher rate of firearm ownership than the USA... yet it has far less homicide rates... it's not the right of gun ownership that's fcking over the USA... it's the underlying social bs that should be fixed instead... by banning guns, there's nothing that stops organized crime from getting them anyway, there's nothing stopping crazy mofos from building homemade explosives instead... if a person is crazy enough to mowdown 30 kids, there's nothing that says this crazy mofo ain't gonna find some other way to do it... don't fix problems by taking away rights, fix the damn underlying problem itself... strict gun control laws are a cop out...
nothing could've prevented this tbh theres really no telling when some crazed human being come out and start shooting everyone. Although increased security might have cut down casualties and all something similar can happen anytime. We have these people living among us everywhere they are either just good at masking it or we just don't give a fuck about others. Sucks that these kids had their lives ended before they experience anything but theres really nothing anyone can do about it if it didnt happen here it can happen other places.
Not gonna disagree, but have to keep in mind some places crime is so common, we dont need to hear about it. And since we are in NA, when some happens continentally we would hear about it in the news.
lets put this in 1 simple example : being shot by someone in a drunken club fight vs being hit by a fist look at how well Canada controls the guns... The only time crime went up was when guns were being imported by american gangs from the states illegally just to shoot themselves..
News never said anything about this.....dam http://www.dramasian.com/forum/f16/22-children-stabbed-chinese-elementary-school-77569/#post1023966
But then again, with Canada's strict gun control, the Dawson shooting in Montreal a few years ago still occurred. Even if you control guns and limit the availability, like drugs, people WILL get their hands on them one way or another; as if there was no gun control laws in the first place. However, to say that "banning guns causes more crime" is a logically flawed statement. Guns are simply accessories to the crime. The intent to murder will still remain, whether or not you ban guns or not. Even if you import guns, the number of guns (whether domestic or import) is still the same (or even less, due to the difficulty of the import process compared to domestic purchases at, like, walmart), which means the crime rate would theoretically still remain equal, not increase. The highest benefit to banning guns is reducing the number of "petty" or "low-level" crimes, such as armed robbery, as firearms would in theory be more difficult to acquire. Sadly, there isn't an absolute way of indefinitely preventing incidents like this, whether you ban them or not. These crimes will continue to happen. The only thing we can do is to decrease the potential of criminal intent by eliminating the availability of firearms.
