When will korea united ?

Discussion in 'Korean Chat' started by s0uljae, Sep 22, 2008.

  1. s0uljae

    s0uljae Well-Known Member

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    when will north and south korea going to united ? if they do, then korae will be much stronger country..
     
  2. ralphrepo

    ralphrepo Well-Known Member

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    If Korea united under a southern government, it would suddenly be inundated with a few hundred thousand young military men out of work. These men would form the basis for criminal organizations that would have a huge demoralizing effect on Korean society. Millions of people would immediately need to be placed on welfare or else they would starve; this will nearly cripple the Korean economy for years to come. Labor would remain cheap in the north, but be mostly limited to skill sets required for cheap manual labor, and cannot compete with the technologically advanced market for several years. It would mostly be used to assemble pre-manufactured parts from the south, or international sources; eg. similar to how Mexican plants are used to assemble Toshiba televisions. Rampant industrial pollution will costs billions in toxic clean up operations. This was essentially the experience when East Germany finally reunited with West Germany.

    If Korea united under a northern government, it would suddenly transform itself into a highly militarized society, where freedom of travel, speech, education; all the pillars of a free society, would suddenly disappear. Hundreds of thousands of southern Koreans, unused to the ideas of social restrictions, would be forced into labor or re-education camps. Those that won't or can't accept these draconian changes will be jailed or executed. Millions will suddenly become penniless as the government nationalizes private property and redistributes wealth to only those it deemed politically reliable. With the sudden inflow of capital wealth from established southern industries, this united Korea would seek to militarily expand it's sphere of political influence. It would use the advance facilities taken from the south in its quest to finally become a nuclear armed nation, threatening its neighbors, but most notably, Japan, for economic and political concessions.

    Long story short; be really careful for what you wish for. -what?
     
  3. goeatc

    goeatc Well-Known Member

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    nice thought out response, but yeah, it seems very possible.
    They're practically two different countries, I say leave them as they are.
     
  4. turbobenx

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    "When will NOrth and south Vietnam reunite?"
     
  5. but if the north unites under the southern government im sure it would be an overnight then and precautions would be made to make jobs within the north that support industries already in the south, it would take 2 generations for the entirety of korea to be a sound country.... but at this point are they willing to sacrifice some setbacks for the potential to be stronger in the long run....
     
  6. negiqboyz

    negiqboyz Well-Known Member

    I don't know "when" but apparently, I think the South and North are working towards unification despite US opposition. Keep in mind, our men are still over there but with so many crimes that our men have committed and gotten away with immunity; have angers a lot of South Koreans in recent years. If I recall correctly from a poll taken from South Koreans; most agree to stand ally with their Northern bro if they have to go to war against the US. That's the current mentality.

    Politically and economically, how all these will play out is still too soon to know. After all, both sides have its own system. Regardless, any unification will create massive changes.
     
  7. keju

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    maybe never..both sides have developed different cultures and they really won't fit together. the only time they may become reunited is when all of the North Koreans have escaped or *pardon me* died out and then South Korea can rebuild the North.
     
  8. ralphrepo

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    Pardon me, but I disagree; I don't think the north or south is working towards unification at all. Despite their common ethnic ancestry, they've become two vastly separate and distinct societies and cultures. What I surmise from various media sources (north & south) is that such idealistic rambling on unification is just a politically convenient and palatable code word for the masses; what each side really wants is the absolute absorption or political takeover of their counterpart.

    The idea of US soldiers committing crimes in the ROK and have "gotten away with immunity" is a misguided public sentiment, often stoked by those with an agenda. The Status of Forces Agreement means that the US government is responsible for the administration and trial of criminal conduct by US soldiers. The sentences handed down by the US military may be considered lenient from a Korean crime victim's point of view. But that hardly qualifies as immunity, which by definition would mean no prosecution or punishment at all; that is simply not true. Americans who are visitors but not in the military remain subject to the laws and full prosecutorial reach of any nation (except for Iraq) that they visit.

    Insofar as having US forces remain in the peninsula, every suggestion made by any US politician that the US should consider drastically reducing its military footprint there is met by loud and vocal Korean political and military opposition. In other words, the ROK powers that be, wants the US to stay there. Even popular political figures there, who get elected on anti-American campaign stumping platforms of "US go Home" have flipped once they get into office.
     
  9. AC0110

    AC0110 Let the Fun Begin

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    If anything, the North will take over the South as the South are bascially defenceless other than from other countries support...

    The way it's gonna unite is going to be some sort of war, neither of them gonna shake hands and be like "Go ahead and take my country"

    So yea, it's better to leave them the way they are.
     
  10. ralphrepo

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    The south, defenseless? LOL... No on your life. No only is there the American political tripwire; these people having been planning on the north attacking them again for the last half century. Even their highways that run from north to south are already pre-rigged with explosives that would bring down a mountain over a possible route of fast attack. The south also has money; and lots of it, meaning that they can buy just about any hardware if they wanted to. Korean Airlines, the national carrier is already pre-arranged by national defense orders to cut off civilian use at the drop of a hat and turn their entire fleet over to the military for nation defense purposes. Heck, nearly all their pilots were former military anyway. The north may have more artillary, guns, missiles, and tanks. But what they don't have is the logistics that supply an army. This is what defeated Napolean; his troops starved to death. The DPRK is already starving now; how can they possibly sustain an effort that would eat up their national food, revenue, and fuel reserves in less than a week? <_<

    After that, they would be sitting ducks for the economically better prepared south. Moral is, the army with the full belly and full gas tank will always win. The DPRK may look good on paper, but they won't have the endurance for a war. :Talktohand:
     
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  11. bbes

    bbes Incredible

    i don't think there will be a war anytime soon between them and both south and north korea will not be united until north korea becomes capitalist which isn't going to be anytime soon.
     
  12. ralphrepo

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    I think yours is the common and correct view. Despite the rhetoric that either side avidly shovels into their media press, neither wants the headache or pain of either waging a war or even that of reunification. Moreover, the north understands that its political value is not what it used to be. This is because its major patrons (both the PRC and Russia) have lost the need to openly proxy battle the west. They may still do so insofar as ideologies, but would be very hesitant to use military hardware, or even supply the sort of large scale support that the DPRK would need to sustain a war. China won't because a US boycott of its products, though painful for the US, would be even more painful for China; and Russia doesn't have that much money. In effect, the DPRK can attack, but cannot wage a war.

    Like you already stated, the north will eventually find a capitalist economy and relabel it as a socialist success story (just like China). By that time, it would then have so many commercial ties with the west that any idea of war would be a non starter (just like China will {at least} for the next two generations). I think that this will begin to happen once the head of the personality cult dies (just like China) and a more realistic head of state takes over.
     
  13. ^ that makes a lot of sense and maybe the building that was suppose to be some grand hotel can finally be finished.... lol

    but yeah some person needs to die and another with a better understanding of the world needs to take his place...