Anyone use Newgroups to download? I recently got a account from Astraweb and found it very useful, my cousins and mates uses it n consider it safe than torrents this is because newsgroup reader and severs Astraweb and Grabit use SSL (Secure Socket Layer) Does this actually make ot safe to download. I been using Newsgoup for about 2 weeks now and the only problem ive been having is when downloading naruto it comes with missing parts, par2 files or just cant extract which is very annoying. Im still learning how to use newgroup still a noob at it. Dont really understand the Par2 files etc.. and the QuickPar software to find missing Par2 files or something...pretty clueless atm, I just downloaded a Naruto Shippuden ep 103 and came up courrupt :(
I've never really completely understood how newsgroups work. I had the impression you had to pay for usenext. Anyways, if you're trying to download anime why would you use newsgroups? Torrents & IRC work a lot better.
for anime torrents are a lot better, and i live in the US so there isn't any laws banning me from downloading it illegally....
The safety is not so much in the SSL but rather that you never reveal or share your IP to anyone except the server that you download from. PAR2 files are like wild cards that 'parity' or provide insurance for the files that they mirror. For example, if you have a file that is 100 MB, with 20% parity; then up to 20% of your original file can be repaired by the Parity file. It is like the spare tire of your car. Say, if someone uploads that same 100 MB file, but only 96% of the file makes it onto the server, you need to only download an additional 4% of the parity files, combine them the original 96%, to reconstitute your original file. Note: Files do NOT need to be complete on the server before download. You must download any and all available file parts, then let Quickpar attempt a repair. Quickpar will take the good or broken file sections (from a corrupt file) and combine with the parity files to reconstruct your original file. So if you downloaded more PAR2 than you need, it's OK. But it fails if you downloaded an amount of parity that was less than what you're missing with original file. To provide insurance for repair or replacement of missing file sections, each PAR2 file set is generated for a specific file only. Hence, PAR2 files are not interchangeable. To use PAR2 files, you must use the program QUICKPAR. Once Quickpar is integrated into your explorer shell, right click on any of the par2 files, and then left click on menu choice repair. Spoiler: Some Pictures To Provide Better Illustration... I did these things years ago, but they're still more or less relevant. However, because of the size, it may be hard to read unless you download the picture first. Newsgroups were an outgrowth of the old electronic bulletin board services when the internet was relatively new. One would sign up with an internet service provider, which then allow three separate services: 1. internet access 2. e-mail server 3. newsgroup server The newsgroup server was like these PA forums, except in text only (no graphics). Each newsgroup was analogous to one specific forum section. People would log on to their newsgroup server, and then check a particular newsgroup (or forum) to read what others had posted. Over time, the number of different newsgroups became quite extensive, requiring multiple nationwide server farms at the cost of millions for ISPs. This occurred mainly when coders were able to figure out how to wrap binaries in a text container, post it onto usenet where others could download. After downloading the binary is unwrapped, et voila! A binary file. At first, it was generally used for porn, but then it became other things, like software programs, games, and then music and movies. The good part of it was, that you're not sharing your internet address with anyone. So while you can get in trouble for copyright infringement via peer to peer type programs (torrents, edonkey, emule), the chances of getting caught with usenet is almost zero. This is because the poster is the one who takes all the risks. The downloader essentially just copies a message that was posted by someone else. There is no way that anyone can find out who downloaded what; unless the owner of the newsgroup server divulges that information (and he's hardly going to kill his own business). So while I would freely torrent foreign media, I would never P2P with US origin media, which is actively tracked by the movie and music authorities. They actually have hired companies that do nothing but go on line with torrents and record everyone's IP address that they come in contact with. If your IP is seen sharing a media that they own, they can then go to a judge and request a court order for your ISP to divulge to whom that IP belongs to. This is how they catch people. So torrents are not safe. Most ISP's now have gotten rid of their own newsgroup servers because of the monumental expense. So if one wants such service, one has to now pay extra to third party independent servers. Some are good, and some bad. Most have SSL for security, but the most important facet is the duration of a posted message's retention. In other words, how long does the posted message remain available on the server? While text messages continues to be held sometimes for years, binary messages take up tremendous server space. Some are held for a few months (on good servers) while others will only be held for a few days (on bad servers) and then deleted to make room for newer messages. There are also server plans that allow simultaneous downloads across several connections, at high or low metered connection speeds depending on how much one pays. This is similar to the Megaupload or other file hosting services (which got their idea from newsgroups). In fact, the newsgroup server can be seen as being exactly like megaupload, except that you don't need a link; you just go on the server and check out all the available files and download what you want.
I too never really understood how to use Newsgroups. Also my isp got a bad newsserver so files are deleted within 2 days..(or was it 2 weeks? :S) so ...i prefer to stick with ddl
Newsgroups are direct download. Just that they are time sensitive in that the download is only available for a short period of time.
Wow thanks for the guide PA - Entertainment Destination - View Profile: ralphrepo@@AMEPARAM@@View Profile: ralphrepo</title>@@AMEPARAM@@ralphrepo nice one lol. I stil dont really fully understand but i kinder get it. Using quickpar atm and works well atm fixing my missing rar files etc. As for Jelly and Akki, Im not really a fan of torrent since its slow for me and hate it where you need people to seed etc..and like what raplh said it doesnt reveal your IP address which is surely a good advantage, i known a few people got caught downloading using torrent and got fined lol. But im not saying that you wont get caught downloading using newsgroup but ofc a lesser chance than torrent. In addition I dont just download anime i download movies as well BrRip Movies....not sure its a good idea to mention lol someone probably tracking my IP now n arrest me lmao :S
Well, the learning curve is rather steep. However, once you do learn it, it becomes so much second nature that you don't even think about it. As a matter of fact, you can even use public indexing services to hunt down exactly the file that you need. Also, the popular movies generally appear several times a month. You can also get television series for the most popular shows too. For a low risk venue, it is not bad at all.
this is new to me .. i heard of torrent but newsgroup is a first .. lol .. i thought it was for news .. lol @ralph .. how do you know all these? man .. how much time do you spend online???
damn ralph seems like you would be able to write a manual with that...but damn i gave up on newsgroups long ago tried to freeload but didn't work at all so i just quit and stuck with torrents, same with emule lol.
This is true with many skills i suppose, lol, and i suppose if you are determined than yeah go for it. But i think i'll take my chances with torrents for now...
Ralphrepo explained most of the steps already, but here is a nice guide that I used when I started some years ago: http://www.binaries4all.com/beginners/ My paid usenet newsgroup subscription has a 507 days retention, so it will keep most content available for more than a year. It also allows me to download at my maximum download speed. Free newsgroup services from your ISP are usually crap though, so it's not worth wasting your time with them. Personally I do not think newsgroup has a steep learning curve. When you started with Torrens, eMule, etc. you also had to learn the steps. If you know how to read and follow the steps in the guide above, then it's very easy. I did try to convince people on here to use newsgroups by uploading a popular drama serie to newsgroup, but even that didn't help ... lol. At the end I gave up and provided the torrent that would take more than a week to complete and others uploaded it to Megaupload. It kind of makes sense though, because with newsgroup binaries you usually have to get a paid subscription to get a decent service. And yes, newsgroups are safer (for the time being) since you are more or less doing a direct download like is the case with Megaupload. So those movie/music companies cannot spy along unless they break the laws themselves. Btw, the use of SSL was introduced to combat ISPs that were throttling newsgroup downloads (like they did with torrents), but SSL would also help a bit I guess if you have law enforcement on your heels
Wow... It's hard to imagine but I've been doing this since the early 90's when the "internet" was one of those gee whiz things that no one ever heard of. As for writing a manual? Nah... that's more like a set of helpful household hints. You guys should see the real manual. If you ever check out wiki's page, it gives a really good explanation of just exactly what is usenet (the other name for the alternate network besides the internet that people access in search of newgroups, but people use the two terms interchangeably). *** Sidebar *** Question, but why does a link to Wiki always seem to echo the link, that is display it twice? Newsgroups really aren't so difficult once you get a good newsgroup download program, which just about does everything for you except shine your shoes. The hardest part is learning how to use those programs and there are a variety of them. I like Newsbin Pro (10 day trial then $35) but others like Xnews (free) or Agent (30 day trial plus 90 day free introduction to their newsgroup service, then $29). There are many more choices that I won't bother to list. Another feature of newsgroups is the fact that the server network is distributed, meaning that the same item is actually held on multiple servers. This is like mirrored downloads you get from some links, where there is a series of alternate links that you can click on. But with usenet, as long as you're entitled to access to each of those servers, you download from the collective of servers. I myself pay for two separate server subscriptions, and I'm thinking of adding a third. The amount of volume that I get runs average about 140 to 200 GBs a month. I rationalize the expense this way; the total cost of about 25 bucks a month for the usenet servers, gets me thousand of dollars worth of entertainment. A night out at the movies with Missus Ralph and the kids would be easily 50 bucks (or more if you count all the snacks they buy at inflated theater prices). So with my math, usenet is actually a bargain, LOL... BTW, one should also visit one of those newsgroup indexing services, a good free one is BinSearch which will poll across multiple servers and list what files are available. While they won't offer the files themselves, they will get the names (what is known as the "headers") of each post, list them so that they can be inspected, and if you like, would create a *.NZB file for you, of the files that you select. The NZB file then is essentially a list of the headers that you want. You import (load) the NZB file into your newsgroup downloader software; it will then automatically seek out those files from your network of authorized servers and begin downloading. If the file is not found, it will then wait and periodically check again for it. You can set this so that it will check for a few hours, a few days, or forever, LOL... It's actually pretty amazing shit and I can't understand why more people don't use it. And thanks, PHANTOMAN; that's a great link. :biggthumpup:
i guess people did u newsgroup back in the days but at that time it seem pretty poor n rubbish, i dont know what newsgroup use to be like but for what im paying for atm £7 a month unlimited max speed i find it very good i think people just dont like paying a fee in the end, people who use newsgroup back in days probably think it was shit and pointless due to lesser rentention days etc.. so therefore they stick to torrent and now they dont realise how good and useful newgroup is nowadays, i find it amazing i use binsearch n nzbclub its awsome!
Ey I was just wondering if any group post nzb files of HK or any other asian relate stuff? If so anyone kind of enough post it, cuz I cant find shit with FTD.
I agree. The main thing is that I don't wanna pay. The whole point was to download for free...Anyways, I still get very good speeds with mediafire + jdownloader.
I don't think a lot of people here know about FTD (since it's a Dutch service), but here are the steps to find the asian stuff on FTD: - In the upper-left corner, click on Advanced Search ("klik voor geavanceerde zoekopdrachten"). - Type in "asian" in the search field ("Zoeken naar"). - Select the option to search in tags ("Zoeken in", "in tags"). - Click the search button. If anyone else knows about places where you can find nzb files for HK/Asian stuff I would be interested as well.
