The Austrian Cellar

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  1. MissCheekS

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    Mother 'unaware' of daughter's basement ordeal

    I know its a long article....but =/.........just read n u will find out


    April 28, 2008 - 5:40PM

    Austrian police have arrested a man they believe imprisoned his daughter in a windowless basement for 24 years, abused her and fathered seven children with her.

    Police said the woman, identified as 42-year-old Elisabeth F, told them her father Josef had lured her into the basement of the block where they lived in the town of Amstetten in 1984, and drugged and handcuffed her before imprisoning her.

    Three of her children were locked up since birth in the basement of the drab, grey building along with their mother and had never seen sunlight or received any education, police said.

    Authorities in Amstetten, 130km west of Vienna, were still piecing together details of the case, reminiscent of that of Austrian Natascha Kampusch who spent eight years locked up in a windowless cell before escaping in August 2006.

    "We are faced with a crime that is incomprehensible," Interior Minister Guenther Platter said on Austrian television.

    "Everything that has happened here goes beyond one's imagination".

    Austrian papers asked today how the local community could have been unaware of what was going on in the basement of the housing block.

    "It is not going to be possible to go back to everyday normality after this," the daily Der Standard wrote in an editorial.

    "The whole country must ask itself just what is really, fundamentally going wrong," the paper said.

    Josef, a 73-year-old electrical engineering technician by training, told investigators how to enter the basement prison through a hidden door operated by secret code, police said.

    "There was a shelf with plenty of cans and containers, and behind the shelf was a door made of reinforced concrete, secured electronically and running on steel rails, and only the suspect knew the code," said local official Heinz Lenze.

    The hideout itself was a sophisticated network of chambers with facilities for sleeping, cooking and washing, Franz Polzer, head of the criminal investigations unit in the province of Lower Austria, told broadcaster ORF.

    Authorities were still searching the cellar early today, the Austrian press agency APA reported, adding that some of the rooms were no more than 1.7 metres high.

    APA said police were investigating a "padded cell" in the cellar, quoting senior district official Hans-Heinz Lenze.

    Josef's wife Rosemarie had been unaware of what happened to her daughter and it was assumed Elisabeth had disappeared voluntarily when her parents received a letter from her saying they should not search for her.

    Elisabeth gave birth to seven children during her ordeal, one of whom died shortly after being born, police said.

    Three of the younger children were brought up by Josef and his wife after they were left at the building, the first child accompanied by a note from Elisabeth saying she was unable to care for the baby herself.

    Three others, including the two eldest aged 18 and 19, and the youngest, aged five, had been locked up in the basement with their mother since birth.

    The case only came to light when the oldest child became seriously ill and was taken to the local hospital. Josef said that child had also been left unconscious on his doorstep, according to media reports.

    A 19-year-old girl, who was seriously ill and is still fighting for her life, was dropped off last weekend at the hospital.

    Doctors appealed for the girl's mother, who at that time was believed to have disappeared, to come forward to provide more details about the daughter's medical history.

    Josef then brought Elisabeth and her remaining two children out of the basement, telling his wife that their "missing" daughter had chosen to return home, police said.

    "This is not a mother abandoning her child which then had to be admitted to hospital in a serious condition ... We know that she herself has been kept imprisoned by her own father for 24 years in the basement and furthermore she obviously was also subjected to sexual abuse," Polzer said.

    After questioning and assurances that she would have no further contact with her father - who she said abused her from the age of

    11 - Elisabeth agreed to make a "comprehensive statement".

    Rosemarie, as well as Elisabeth and her children were receiving psychological counselling. DNA samples of all those involved were taken and would be analysed, police said.


    source:http://www.smh.com.au/news/world/mo...s-cellar-ordeal/2008/04/28/1209234747644.html

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    my housemate told me this wonderful story during dinner..... not very nice =/

    this must be one of the most sick things ive heard...this goes beyond dutroux or the case of natascha kampusch..
    its something i havent even seen in movies and it makes me sick to my stomach
    8 lifes to waste....
     
  2. lovinglyxx

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    i know this may have been exageratted, and twisted/ manipulated in all ways but this is some sick shit
    he fathered his daughter's 7 children.. wtf?????
     
  3. MissCheekS

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    i dont believe it is exaggarated....

    this is a messed up world....makes me wonder how much worse its gonna get....& i am afraid it is going to get a lot more worse....gets u thinkin.... what kind of world r our children going to live in

    & its the kinda thing i do not want to think about
     
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  4. shadowchi

    shadowchi ~~♫ ♫ ♪ Himitsu ♪ ♫ ♫ ~~

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    I saw this article to on msn, I dont believe that his wife dont know anything about this.
    So she means she haven't used the basement for 24 years........, right.......she dont wonder why there is some high-tech door in her basement.....

    On the chinese ttelevision they said, they are giong to take bloodsamples to investigate if the 6 childeren is indeed her child (victim).....

    Still it's one -censored father, although I must admit he's done a great job on thinking/making that reinforced concrete door with all those high-tech things......

    this is only one of the things that is shown to the public, who know how many of this shit is going on, on this world -boat

    Let's hope that these sickos gets what they deserved-censored
     
  5. i have heard so crazy stories in psychology class and yet somehow this still quite surprised me...

    some sick people in this world and wow... i really feel sorry for the kids, they have no idea what the real world is like...
     
  6. Flames

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    Outbreak of the freaks...
     
  7. MissCheekS

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    yes...we need some kinda superhero to punish and get rid of all that rubbish...
     
  8. Maverick

    Maverick Lord Vader

    Seen it in the news. :puke: :puke: :puke:
     
  9. BigC

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    wow, this is crazy... It makes you wonder if some of the kids are from the other children that were locked up in
    the basement... I just can't imagine how someone could do this to anyone let alone their own child... For some
    reason I have a feeling that the mother knows something about this cause the daughter was sexually abused
    since she was 11 years old, she had to know something
     
  10. BigC

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    Just saw it on the news here is the pic of the guy:
    [​IMG]

    They said that when one of the children died during child birth that he stuck the baby in the oven and then buried the bones...:puke:
     
  11. tien317

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    OMG...wat a cruel man...he is insane!!
     
  12. bbes

    bbes Incredible

    thats sick and disgusting, at least let the children go. so cruel. he seemed very prepared also with the prison and stuff.
     
  13. tonkachi

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    WOW...that is pretty fucked up...the worst part is i'm suprised the mom didn't realize some resemblence in the children she was helping to raise...i mean the geans are of her daughter and her husband...i mean their are bounds to be resemblence somewhere

    but what he did was just sick and disgusting how can people live with themselvles locking up their own kids and having kids with them o_O :rl::rl::rl::rl:

    we need a global purge of all these types of people they are poluting the gene pool
     
  14. hey its not bad compared to the other girl who was locked up in a basement within a box for 7 years willingly simply because the captor made her sign a fake contract stating that they are always watching her and she thought her parents were going to be killed if she every told anyone LOL i can't believe people are that stupid as they even let her home to visit her family and she didn't tell them about it.

    http://www.crimelibrary.com/criminal_mind/psychology/sex_slave/index.html
     
  15. shits not exaggerated. i saw this two days ago, and saw the news vid too.

    real shit is real.
     
  16. countryboy

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    a lot of sickos in this world:
    1.) Leonard Lake and Charles Ng ; they murdering up to 25 people at Lake's ranch in Calaveras County, California. They filmed themselves raping and torturing their victims.
    2.) Robert Pickton - Pig Farmer/Serial Killer in British Columbia, Canada; murder over 50 women.
    3.) I cant remember the name of the person in England, who kill a lot of people and buried they in his basement.

    so I am not surprised.
     
  17. mingming2006

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    no words 2 describe that insane guy...n seriously feel sorry for his daughter and his children / grand-children...
     
  18. bbes

    bbes Incredible

    now that is just inhumane in all accounts.
     
  19. MissCheekS

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    uhm no i think i prefer going into a box for 7 years over getting locked in basement for 24 years n give birth to 7 children and all that by my father....
     
  20. zero_c

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    I don't believe that the wife didn't know about the whole ordeal. I'm not sure I would not be curious about a whole floor that my family never uses. Plus, unless the father is a doctor, he would need help with delivering the baby. Its just unbelievable that the wife is so oblivious to the whole situation.