Downloading Anime Not Illegal??

Discussion in 'The Lounge' started by master_g, Nov 7, 2007.

  1. New Japan copywrite laws seems to indicate that even licensed fansubbed anime from Japan aint illegal.


    (Performance, etc. not for profit-making)
    Article 38.
    (1) It shall be permissible to publicly perform, present and recite a work already made public, for non-profit-making purposes and without charging any fees ("fees" includes any kind of charge to be imposed on the offering and the making available of a work to the public; the same shall apply hereinafter in this Article) to audience or spectators*2 ; provided, however, that the performers or reciters concerned are not paid any remuneration for such performance, presentation or recitation.

    (2) It shall be permissible to diffuse by wire a work already broadcast, for non-profit-making purposes and without charging any fees to audience or spectators.

    (3) It shall be permissible to communicate publicly, by means of a receiving apparatus, a work already broadcast or diffused by wire, for non-profit-making purposes and without charging any fees to audience or spectators. The same shall apply to such public communication made by means of a receiving apparatus of a kind commonly used in private homes.

    (4) It shall be permissible to offer to the public a work (except a cinematographic work) already made public, by lending copies of the work (excluding copies of a cinematographic work in the case of a work reproduced in the cinematographic work) for non-profit-making purposes and without charging any fees to borrowers of such copies.

    (5) For audiovisual education establishments and other establishments not for profit-making, designated by Cabinet Order, having the purposes, among others, to offer cinematographic films and other audiovisual materials for the use by the public, it shall be permissible to distribute a cinematographic work already made public, by lending copies of the work, without charging any fees to borrowers of such copies.In this case, a person who makes such distribution shall pay a reasonable amount of compensation to the owner of the right mentioned in Article 26 (including the owner of the same right as that mentioned in Article 26 in accordance with the provision of Article 28) with respect to such a cinematographic work or a work reproduced in that cinematographic work.

    *2 In Article 38, paragraph (1), "without charging any fees ("fees" includes any kind of charge to be imposed on the offering and the making available of a work to the public; the same shall apply hereinafter in this Article) to audience or spectators" includes the case where, without charging any fees to audience or spectators, a work is exploited for teaching or research activities in such a school as established by a school establishing company mentioned in Article 12, paragraph (2) of the Law for Special Districts for Structural Reform (Law No.189, of 2002).
     
    #1 master_g, Nov 7, 2007
    Last edited: Nov 7, 2007
  2. dim8sum

    dim8sum ♫♪♫♪♫♪♫♪♫♪♫♪....

    werent fansubs and stuff legal before?
     
  3. khaotic

    khaotic Fobulous

    Ya they were. Its just that once an American company licenses a show it becomes illegal :\
     
  4. ^ but according to this even licensed ain't illegal as long as you watch the version that was shown on Japanese tv and NOT an American dvd rip etc.
     
  5. The_Jelly

    The_Jelly NSFW? :P

    Thats a relief lol. Some people used to tell me that it was illegal and I was like "seriousl??"
     
  6. wind2000

    wind2000 Self Schemata

    Its only the Americans that are looking to make big bucks out of everything.
     
  7. Rev

    Rev Well-Known Member

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    This is amazing news :D that means more anime for us to download while its legal and US can't sue the fansubbers
     
  8. stilish

    stilish Well-Known Member

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    some how, i didn't really care either way...lol, yay for downloading free!!!
     
  9. saikira

    saikira Well-Known Member

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    this is totally awesome~ no worries about the american companies suin ppl for distributin fansub anime~
    then many subbers can finally finish subbin a series that isnt finish~
     
  10. peterisation

    peterisation Member

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    yeah but even if fansubbing was illegal, does anyone even care. Like there are tons of animes which are licensed that people sub anyway. And people still download it =)
     
  11. taiguy

    taiguy New Member

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    Actually, fansub groups can get in big trouble if they continue producing a series after its been licensed. (either they stop or go underground, i.e. IRC)
    There's usually a good period of time between when it's aired in Japan and when it's liscened by north american companies, so generally they can get all the subs done. If you have noticed, a lot of subbed files state 'Please cease distribution after licensing.' And when it does become licensed, the fansub group removes the torrent download off their own website, but that doesn't stop it since it usually circulates elsewhere and plenty of seeds are present for distro.
     
  12. robsh

    robsh Well-Known Member

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    whether its news or not
    anime otaku just doesnt care i think
    well still good news
    ANIME -rockon
     
  13. Nervios

    Nervios Well-Known Member

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    It's copyright issues :p
     
  14. animeblood

    animeblood Well-Known Member

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    Can we name a source to that article and year?
     
  15. nyckeion

    nyckeion ....Boo....

    wohooo but then americans like to license everything like death note and such
     
  16. evilhomura89

    evilhomura89 New Member

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    nah, i think it isn't illegal...it's like promoting anime to world outside japan
     
  17. copy some of the text and paste it into google. works wonders....
     
    #17 master_g, Nov 18, 2007
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  18. vester

    vester Member

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    well, that mean we can have more anime to download.
     
  19. naruto267

    naruto267 Member

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    anime should not be illegal. Stupid American companies have to stop licensing good anime and turning them into crap with crappy translations.
     
  20. honkiebonkie

    honkiebonkie Well-Known Member

    but seriously. no one actually cares (the downloaders) that they're legal or not. Everyone just finds a forum or fan site where they download licensed or non licensed anime..or atleast find a way around this and watch on a blog or somethingg..

    Technically, it's "sharing" >_>

    hmm i dont agree with anime not being illegal. They ARE artists' piece of work, they reserve the right to have their anime distributed or do whatever they want with it. It's just too bad for the viewers. Everyone should be buying anime not that i want to buy anime or anything, it's just like downloading licensed music/movies/tv shows or free music/movies/tv shows.