Question on religion (mainly Christianity)

Discussion in 'Philosophy & Religion' started by 無得頂, Jun 20, 2007.

  1. 無得頂

    無得頂 Well-Known Member

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    Now that I think of it, heaven isn't such a great place. There's nothing to do in heaven. When there is no goal, then it is boring. I can almost imagine a guy dies and happily enters heaven thinking of paradise. But no.....the guy enters and sees a couple bearded men sitting quietly in a circle reading the bible and praying.
     
  2. i wasnt talking about Hitler as a Christian. i was talking about him being as physically human as any one of us.

    so i ask, Jesus coming to the world is supposed to reduce these sins, but seems to me they havent changed. why
     
  3. BabyRain

    BabyRain Doppelgänger of da E.Twin

    I am not Taxloss, but I found that particular sentence of yours highlighted in bold, extremely OFFENSIVE! -censored

    Have you not read my post #54!?! My words have absolutely no impact on you?! My rational and logical reasonings have fell on deaf ears huh!?

    Now, if our Taxloss here wants to make a claim that "I have led a life so perfect and sinless that God will grant me to Heaven", so be it!!

    For God's sake (again, no pun intended), LEAVE HER ALONE! And the rest of us!

    If she wants to believe in that, let her be! Just like you made a claim, "Oh you guys are so going to Hell because you don't believe in Jesus Christ", that to me is a STUPID and IGNORANT claim indeed.

    And that claim doesn't just involve YOU personally, but you are making a claim in regards to the REST OF US. So how does that make you look like? A bigger fool?

    What Taxloss wish to claim was something which would have a direct effect on HER and HER ALONE. She did not make any claims in regards to anyone else's eternal life. What YOU and MG did, WAS MUCH WORSE.

    You claim that each of us will be going to HELL. Who are YOU to play God?!

    If you can't let Taxloss get away with making a claim like that on HER personal eternal life, then do you think the rest of us would let you get off the hook when you make a claim on OUR eternal lives!? <_<
     
  4. hiake

    hiake Vardøgr of da E.Twin

    Ah, there it is again. Whatever goodness in the world is attributed to the Christian God by Christians, and everything wrong is attributed to the sinfulness of men. What a way to be evasive of responsibility.

    Let us not forget the sin committed by Christians in the name of their God. To be truthful I am not sure if it is an EXCLUSIVE Catholic thing or Christian thing in general (Catholic and Protestant and other sects included): Witch hunt, holy crusade, holy war between Protestants and Catholics? Somehow killing in the name of God is not killing? Or are they so naive to think that killing in the name of God, then repent and confess about it, will not have consequences?
     
  5. 無得頂

    無得頂 Well-Known Member

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    I don't think it really matters to me whether someone tells me I am going to hell or not. The more christians tell me I will go to hell if I don't believe in christianity, the more I don't believe in it.
     
  6. hiake

    hiake Vardøgr of da E.Twin

    I concur on that attitude. Only time will tell on that matter.

    And if you ask me? I would probably have my last laugh at the moment of my death, just before my consciousness dissipates into void (which is the concept of death in my belief, ashes to ashes, dust to dust)
     
  7. Right... is taxloss a boy or girl?
     
  8. hiake

    hiake Vardøgr of da E.Twin

    Why does gender matter? Does the hypothetical God judge more severely on a particular gender?
     
  9. take the question at face value
     
  10. BabyRain

    BabyRain Doppelgänger of da E.Twin

    Hmm, but no, seriously. I am curious too!

    Why would it matter if Taxloss is a 'girl or a boy'? -huh

    Are you asking just because you are curious?
     
  11. Denomic

    Denomic Well-Known Member

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    master_g: This doesn't have anything to do with "God created man, then took a piece of man (the rib) and created a woman." thing does it? I recall a debateI had with a Christian friend about something to do that.. IIRC, the main point to my understanding was that men are superior to women in as we were the first to be created. Something like that.. the debate got cut short as the restaurant was closing, I think I'll bring it up again this weekend when we have our BBQ...
     
  12. Taxloss

    Taxloss Stripper Vicar

    OFFTOPIC! -nono
     
  13. Nah guys it was a serious question, taxloss has been called a girl and a boy now so i was not sure. Denomic, lol, no it has nothing to do with that, as i said above. Taxloss, it is off topic so ill pursue it no further.
     
  14. 無得頂

    無得頂 Well-Known Member

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    Taxloss won't date you. You're not Aaron Kwok.
     
  15. BabyRain

    BabyRain Doppelgänger of da E.Twin

    HAHAHA!! Now that's what I call, giving him a taste of his own medicine!!! -rotfl
     
  16. mgfcortez

    mgfcortez Well-Known Member

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    i can take the part about being a slave in a way because to a point maybe so.
    but a mindless slave that can't think for himsef,now that piss me off even more.lol
    maybe you should keep you mouth shut about shit you don't know nothing about.
    do you know for sure every last Christian don't have the brains to think for themself's?
    how old are you because i'd believe it would take along time for you to ask them all one by one.lol
    it's eazy to say anything:p
    i can say because you think you become food for the maggots when you die.

    your a mindless fool,but do i start say all ppl who don't believe in a God are fools or dumb ass's?
    no i show respect to other even if i don't believe such a thing,and try to keep an open mind.
    instead of just say what a dumb ass,i say they must be some reson he believe in such a thing.
    even tho i can't understand it i respect it<_<
    i wouldn't even mind if you say most Christians are mindless slaves,because they are some dumb ass ppl in this world.
    but you said if your a Christian meaning all Christians everywhere.
    if you ment ppl that act like a fool sure,but all Christians are not so dumb.

    Christians who *ONLY*
    you didn't say that in the other post nether<_<

    not trying to start shit or nothing but don't like being called a mindless slave at all-dead
     
  17. 無得頂

    無得頂 Well-Known Member

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    I am sure every christian can think for him/herself. But I also know that although every christian can think for him/herself, they all believe and follow the bible and god completely with no doubts. By saying mindless slaves, I am saying that christians completely believe, trust, and follow whatever they think the bible and god tells them to act and do. They have the capability to think for themselves, but ultimately, they will pursue the teachings of god.

    Now for the 2nd part:
    That is my quote.

    So mgfcortez, what is the difference in the following statements other than the word "only"?
    1. "Christians who only believe in everything the bible states and god is brainwashed."
    2. "Christians who believe in everything the bible states and god is brainwashed"

    For #1, christians believe in nothing else except only the bible and god. For #2, christians believe in the bible and god, and possibly something else.

    However, I consider the definition of a christian as a person who believes and follows everything in the bible and everything about god. Any person who doesn't believe and follow christianity completely (or follows another religion) is not considered a true christian. I don't know how you (mgfcortez) define a christian, but whenever I am referring to a christian, that will be my definition. Therefore, for my statements #1 and #2, the meaning is the same since I consider christians to believe in nothing else except the ways of the bible and god.
     
  18. ^^
    concerning religious matters i fall into that category :p
     
  19. thanx4nothin

    thanx4nothin Active Member

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    hold on guys. i don't think that we should start insulting each other over this issue....
    regardless of whether you are a christian or not and whether you mean it or not, but there are people who are being insulted by what's being said in this.
    just a reminder to the christians here. God said that we WILL face opposition and other uncomfortable things. but the main point is that we have to stay strong.
    you shouldn't try to just convert every person that you see/talk to. first you have to put yourselves in their shoes and understand the points that they're making. think about what they're saying FIRST instead of just rejecting it.
    don't forget to that we should love our neighbors.

    everyone, please try to understand that christians are trying very hard. we're just like you. teenagers who are struggling. we're NO better than you even though we like to pretend that we're superior because we're christians. we've all sinned. and try not to judge a christian because they said something wrong. we can't all be perfect and it's not fair to put down christianity before you try it out. [and i'm not saying that you have to try it out because, if i say that, then i know that one of you are going to repost with the question. why should i?]
    i don't want to get into an argument. but i really hope that you'll listen to what we're trying to say.
    ps. i'll say this again. Christians are NOT perfect. we're NO more perfect than anyone else.
     
  20. BabyRain

    BabyRain Doppelgänger of da E.Twin

    What makes you think we don't? It's exactly what we do here, except for the minority ...
    They show disrespect to others of the different religions or beliefs.

    If you take your time and look around in this section, you would have noticed the particular offensive ones.
    I started this 'ANALYSIS ON EVERY RELIGION/BELIEF' thread.

    Now if I am biased, I would have said, "EVERYONE IS INVITED EXCEPT CHRISTIANS"... but no, i said "EVERYONE IS INVITED".

    Just like you, we have the same amount of faith in our beliefs, so did it occur to you how offensive it is if you try to shove your beliefs down others' throats?

    We do listen, some people are the ones who are guilty of not doing so.

    If you'd like, I can point out some particular threads you can look into, then YOU decide...

    I am not a Christian-hater, neither do I lash out every person who claims to be a Christian. It is made clear from all those posts in this section.

    I only disrespect those who don't give respect. <_<
    And funny, I have the exact same thing to say to you. It's not fair to put down other religions/ beliefs before you try them.

    Often some particular Christians disregard other religions and put them down as false beliefs. What makes you so sure that yours is the RIGHT way, let alone the ONLY way? <_<

    I don't recall putting down Christianity as a whole in all of my posts, by the way. So I don't think you are directing that to me. *shrug* Just wanted to make it clear.

    And I have never put down Christianity in any way, if anything, I even tried to bridge that gap, with my Buddhism and Christianity do they differ? thread but some people just failed to see the very enlightening articles in my thread. One of them for example: