Are we really living?

Discussion in 'Philosophy & Religion' started by S.N.Gaara, Jan 27, 2007.

  1. Stephanie_Ng18

    Stephanie_Ng18 Well-Known Member

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    hahaha did you take this from the Matrix
    you could quote Descartes on this: I think therefore I am
    which means... that since you have thoughts, you are living... lol
     
  2. numb3rs

    numb3rs New Member

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    we are living base on what we define life is. We could all be dreaming but thinking we are living. So in the end, no one knows.
     
  3. AC0110

    AC0110 Let the Fun Begin

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    Obviously, you're dead... Whatever I'm saying right now is just an illusion and your imiagination...

    (notice the sarcasm)
     
  4. 無得頂

    無得頂 Well-Known Member

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    I don't see how you can interpret human life as fake. It is quite obvious that we are really living and not dreaming. And if we are only dreams, then whose dream are we in?

    "a dream that ends when you die" does not make complete logical sense with your question. Assuming that human life is a dream, then either humans die and whoever is dreaming us wakes up. Or humans actually die and the dreams that we are dreaming ends. With your question, it is clear that you are intending option 1 to be real since you think that humans are in a dream and not actually the ones dreaming. Therefore, since you are intending option 1, then that creature is the one who controls whether humans live or not. The creature can always dream and make humans alive again. That would not make sense since I believe that humans do actually die. So the conclusion is that humans are real and humans are not living in a dream.
     
  5. BabyRain

    BabyRain Doppelgänger of da E.Twin

    ^Haf u seen Matrix? :D
     
  6. 無得頂

    無得頂 Well-Known Member

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    Well, there are real people in the matrix. lol
     
  7. hiake

    hiake Vardøgr of da E.Twin

    "A dream that ends when you die" is more like a state... Like in the Matrix, one is put into induced coma (whatever, egg?) and have the consciousness hooked up to a central network which is in fact a
    bunch of electric signals... When one dies, the signaling from the brain ceases and the body is withdrawn from the network, thus "dying" because the so-called real world outside the world is nothing one has experienced and will not get to experience because one will obviously drown or just simply DIE when the signal ends.

    As to living again, I don't think it is exactly "living again" if one cannot retain memories and thoughts... It would be more appropriately called "reincarnation"...

    Now we are moving ahead of ourselves to define "real". If you would care to define "real"? Is what you touch and see and smell real? All of them are based on such filmsy reality of brain signals... How REAL is that?

    LOL at m_g's LOL at Matrix :p I still remember having like a million long night discussions with friends about the underlying concept of Matrix and parallel universe and all... It's all so geeky beyond all belief...
     
  8. drsnoopy

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    we are wherever we choose to be. If we believe that we are in hell then we are in hell. If we believe this is heaven, then so be it. I tend to sometimes think that we're just all here in purgatory, serving our sentences for our past crimes in previous life....then there's some people that screw up.
     
  9. this this only apply to heaven or hell, how about the moon?
     
  10. hiake

    hiake Vardøgr of da E.Twin

    ^ In fact it applies to the Matrix too... But yeah, doesn't work on the moon @_@b
     
  11. thats odd.. i do believe i have replied to this thread.. but i guess i didnt...

    ive learned in psychology course that some theorists do believe that, just like the matrix mentioned above, we are simply living a dream...

    i think thats all rubbish...

    and plus... this topic is actually ambiguous.... living as it consciously living? or physically living?
     
  12. to think that there maybe robots sucking energy out of our real bodies while we sleep and in this dream world. im surprised the matrix never send an agent to kill the guys who came up with the matrix, blowing their cover an all..... watching the matrix in a movie while being in the matrix lol.
     
  13. hiake

    hiake Vardøgr of da E.Twin

    ^ Well, the best possible cover-up ever invented is to make it a fantastical household story...

    Would you believe the existence of witches and wizards a la Harry Potter? Would you believe it if someone tell you that he/she knows that kid with a scar shaped like lightning on their forehead??? Such claim would be dismissed as "oh he/she's just too into the book"

    So I guess if Matrix is REALLY true, those producers are getting VIP treatment for their blockbuster cover-up...
     
  14. andy18

    andy18 Active Member

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    matrix baby matrix solves it
     
  15. gawain187

    gawain187 Well-Known Member

    Its really hard to tell. From watching the matrix, i have really been confused about all this. But are we real and if this is a dream then i guess both can be feasible.